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Ep 105A Jewish Divorce Mediator Shares What She Sees Behind Closed Doors
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Money, marriage & family · 1:11

After 15 years of 'we need a budget,' she said: I wish he would just hit me

Sarah Nissel

Ep 105Dec 24, 2025

A Jewish Divorce Mediator Shares What She Sees Behind Closed Doors

with Sarah Nissel

In our community, we tend to sell the [wedding] as the finish line, and I really think it's the starting line.

Sarah Nissel

More moments · 4

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No microwaved food for his kids, but three loans on the house his wife didn't know about
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The only thing marriage cures is being single
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Going to litigate? Just write your spouse a check for half of everything you own
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Criminal lawyers see bad people at their best. Family lawyers see good people at their worst.

Try this · top 3

Quotes

“We all need to be less ashamed about talking about money.”

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“I'm not saying that both people need to be paying the bills... I'm saying that the statements need to be on the table.”

Sarah Nissel

“A rabbi once told me that the only thing marriage cures is being single.”

Sarah Nissel

“$600 doesn't seem like a lot of money in the big scheme of things, but a lot of $600 do.”

Sarah Nissel

“Don't try to resolve a conflict when you're hot.”

Sarah Nissel

Takeaways

  1. 1 Sarah Nissel is an attorney who teaches at Pepperdine Law School and runs the Jewish Divorce Assistance Center of Los Angeles, which helps Jewish couples reach peaceful divorces, including the get.
  2. 2 Money is rarely the reason couples divorce. More often it reflects other issues, like control or risk-taking, and it flares up when assets are split.
  3. 3 The bigger problem she sees is how little people know about their own finances when a marriage ends: passwords, debts, loans, even unfiled taxes.
  4. 4 A newer pattern (last five years): the husband earns and the wife manages the money, so at a divorce he has no idea what's there.
  5. 5 Division of labor is fine, but both spouses should know the full picture. It's also a safety step if something happens to one of them.
  6. 6 Kids learn from what they see. When both parents understand the money, it breaks the cycle.
  7. 7 A spouse's attitude to risk can be very different in money than in other parts of life. Talk about it.
  8. 8 Couples should not be shocked by conflict. Marriage is not a fairy tale, and uncomfortable conversations are part of it.
  9. 9 Parents' unspoken promises of support, and bragging about money during shidduchim, can cause trouble years later.
  10. 10 Separate bank accounts can work, but they have legal effects, and the other spouse should know the account exists.
  11. 11 Teach money early (high school seniors, seminary, yeshiva) even if only a little sticks. Living Smarter Jewish (an OU project) has a ready-made curriculum and textbook for schools.
  12. 12 Litigation is slow and very expensive. An amicable divorce saves money and pain.

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