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Ep 99Money Expert Reveals How to Eliminate Debt
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Debt & money trouble · 0:51

Don't drain your retirement to avoid bankruptcy; you may be throwing away protected money

David Siegel

Ep 99Sep 15, 2025

Money Expert Reveals How to Eliminate Debt

with David Siegel

Without budgeting, we'll just be right back where we are a year from now.

David Siegel

More moments · 5

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He settled a $2,000 debt for $1,200 and couldn't get a mortgage for two years
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Credit card companies aren't a fan of you if you pay in full
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$36,000 at 25% costs you $9,000 a year, and here's how to get it down to 0-2%
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I've had people consider bankruptcy because of a wedding
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If you don't have any credit, you won't get a mortgage

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Quotes

“We've become a generation of people who need instant gratification.”

David Siegel

“When you figure a 30% interest rate, in three years, you've probably doubled your debt.”

David Siegel

“Are you going to hurt your retirement for a one-day party?”

David Siegel

“Banks are happy to give you money when you don't want it.”

David Siegel (on opening a home equity line early)

“Every swipe of a card today can turn into years of payment tomorrow.”

Eli Langer

“Money is a tool, not a trophy.”

Eli Langer

Takeaways

  1. 1 US credit card debt went from $478 billion in 1999 to over $1.2 trillion. Easy credit and instant gratification drive it.
  2. 2 Minimum payments hide the cost: $36,000 at 25% grows by about $740 a month, nearly $9,000 a year in interest.
  3. 3 Siegel sees personal clients with $7,000 to $300,000-400,000 in unsecured debt. Weddings are a common cause, and some have even pushed families toward bankruptcy.
  4. 4 Option 1, the 'soft landing': lower your interest rate. A debt management program can get cards to 0-4% if you close all but one card and pay off over five years, for a small fee.
  5. 5 Other ways to lower rates: 0% balance transfer cards (about a 3% fee, and the rate comes back), gemachs (need a co-signer, smaller amounts), family loans and a HELOC at about 7-8%.
  6. 6 A HELOC turns unsecured debt into debt secured by your house, which bankruptcy can't wipe out. Use it as a last resort, especially if you're still running a monthly deficit.
  7. 7 Option 2, the 'danger zone': settlement. You usually must stop paying for months, your credit is hurt, forgiven debt may be taxable, and firms charge 15-20% of the savings. One man saved $800 on a settlement and couldn't get a mortgage for two years.
  8. 8 Option 3, the 'nuclear option': Chapter 7 bankruptcy wipes most unsecured debt in about six months (not taxes or most student loans). In New York you can keep about $179,000 of home equity per person, plus retirement accounts.
  9. 9 The means test can make bankruptcy harder for frum families, because the IRS expense standards don't count high tuition.
  10. 10 Bankruptcy stays on a credit report for 10 years and settlement for 7. Both make a mortgage hard for about two years. Rebuild with a secured card and responsible use.
  11. 11 Siegel once wrote a law school paper comparing shemitta to the bankruptcy rule that you can file only once every seven years.
  12. 12 Pressure for a big wedding often comes from what the daughter wants more than from the spouse. His question: are you going to hurt your retirement for a one-day party?
  13. 13 He told a client with $1 million in investments who couldn't pay her bills to take out $50,000: plan for the future, but you also have to live.

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